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		<title>By: telewizja n</title>
		<link>http://danny-t.co.uk/index.php/2007/04/17/sliverlight-training-microsoft-why-would-i-want-to-do-that/comment-page-1/#comment-32540</link>
		<dc:creator>telewizja n</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 11:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Microsoft are so committed to web standards, why would they develop Silverlight? Not only will they fail to provide a Linux plugin, the Silverlight vector graphics use a proprietary XAML format instead of the web-standard SVG which everyone has been crying out for in IE7.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Microsoft are so committed to web standards, why would they develop Silverlight? Not only will they fail to provide a Linux plugin, the Silverlight vector graphics use a proprietary XAML format instead of the web-standard SVG which everyone has been crying out for in IE7.</p>
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		<title>By: DannyT</title>
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		<dc:creator>DannyT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 09:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No approval needed, often posts get caught by the spam blocker but in this case it appears to be working fine. Possibly a caching issue? I&#039;ll keep an eye on it, thanks for highlighting it Brudinie and thanks for your thoughts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No approval needed, often posts get caught by the spam blocker but in this case it appears to be working fine. Possibly a caching issue? I&#8217;ll keep an eye on it, thanks for highlighting it Brudinie and thanks for your thoughts.</p>
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		<title>By: brudinie</title>
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		<dc:creator>brudinie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 09:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is my second attempt at posting a comment - do they require approval first because if they do, the &#039;Leave a comment&#039; box needs to make that clear.

I&#039;ve had a quick look at Expression Suite and its great to see Microsoft create a web development suite that encourages standards compliance (xhtml, css, etc). The video on Microsoft&#039;s website certainly sells the product for its power in creating cross browser standards compliant code. (Things are sounding good up to this point, eh?)

If Microsoft are so committed to web standards, why would they develop Silverlight? Not only will they fail to provide a Linux plugin, the Silverlight vector graphics use a proprietary XAML format instead of the web-standard SVG which everyone has been crying out for in IE7.

If you are a web developer with a conscience for true cross-platform, standards compliant web technologies, I urge you - please do not develop for Silverlight.

At least Adobe provide a Linux plugin for their proprietary FLASH technology.

Microsoft&#039;s monopoly is bad enough as it is. Every person that develops using their technology (or even worse, works for them) needs to wake up to the moral and ethical questions posed by their monopoly.

It would have been nice if Silverlight was not just another Microsoft attempt at creating a Linux killer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is my second attempt at posting a comment &#8211; do they require approval first because if they do, the &#8216;Leave a comment&#8217; box needs to make that clear.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had a quick look at Expression Suite and its great to see Microsoft create a web development suite that encourages standards compliance (xhtml, css, etc). The video on Microsoft&#8217;s website certainly sells the product for its power in creating cross browser standards compliant code. (Things are sounding good up to this point, eh?)</p>
<p>If Microsoft are so committed to web standards, why would they develop Silverlight? Not only will they fail to provide a Linux plugin, the Silverlight vector graphics use a proprietary XAML format instead of the web-standard SVG which everyone has been crying out for in IE7.</p>
<p>If you are a web developer with a conscience for true cross-platform, standards compliant web technologies, I urge you &#8211; please do not develop for Silverlight.</p>
<p>At least Adobe provide a Linux plugin for their proprietary FLASH technology.</p>
<p>Microsoft&#8217;s monopoly is bad enough as it is. Every person that develops using their technology (or even worse, works for them) needs to wake up to the moral and ethical questions posed by their monopoly.</p>
<p>It would have been nice if Silverlight was not just another Microsoft attempt at creating a Linux killer.</p>
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		<title>By: brudinie</title>
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		<dc:creator>brudinie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 09:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve had a quick look at Expression Suite and its great to see Microsoft create a web development suite that encourages standards compliance (xhtml, css, etc). The video on Microsoft&#039;s website certainly sells the product for its power in creating cross browser standards compliant code. (Things are sounding good up to this point, eh?)

If Microsoft are so committed to web standards, why would they develop Silverlight? Not only will they fail to provide a Linux plugin, the Silverlight vector graphics use a proprietary XAML format instead of the web-standard SVG which everyone has been crying out for in IE7.

If you are a web developer with a conscience for true cross-platform, standards compliant web technologies, I urge you - please do not develop for Silverlight.

At least Adobe provide a Linux plugin for their proprietary FLASH technology.

Microsoft&#039;s monopoly is bad enough as it is. Every person that develops using their technology (or even worse, works for them) needs to wake up to the moral and ethical questions posed by their monopoly.

It would have been nice if Silverlight was not just another Microsoft attempt at creating a Linux killer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had a quick look at Expression Suite and its great to see Microsoft create a web development suite that encourages standards compliance (xhtml, css, etc). The video on Microsoft&#8217;s website certainly sells the product for its power in creating cross browser standards compliant code. (Things are sounding good up to this point, eh?)</p>
<p>If Microsoft are so committed to web standards, why would they develop Silverlight? Not only will they fail to provide a Linux plugin, the Silverlight vector graphics use a proprietary XAML format instead of the web-standard SVG which everyone has been crying out for in IE7.</p>
<p>If you are a web developer with a conscience for true cross-platform, standards compliant web technologies, I urge you &#8211; please do not develop for Silverlight.</p>
<p>At least Adobe provide a Linux plugin for their proprietary FLASH technology.</p>
<p>Microsoft&#8217;s monopoly is bad enough as it is. Every person that develops using their technology (or even worse, works for them) needs to wake up to the moral and ethical questions posed by their monopoly.</p>
<p>It would have been nice if Silverlight was not just another Microsoft attempt at creating a Linux killer.</p>
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		<title>By: Tink</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 02:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Iâ€™ve been getting a bit hacked off with the side-swiping and name-calling going on in our industry of late. And think itâ€™s time for these companies to stop wasting time trying to make each other look bad and start concentrating on their products and their developers. Weâ€™re now spoiled for choice with some amazing technologies, let us get our teeth into them without feeling guilty and let us do some amazing stuff with those technologies. You wonâ€™t influence by bad-mouthing, youâ€™ll influence by supporting, listening and reacting to your developer communities.&quot;

I think you had a major influence on that paragraph Scott!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Iâ€™ve been getting a bit hacked off with the side-swiping and name-calling going on in our industry of late. And think itâ€™s time for these companies to stop wasting time trying to make each other look bad and start concentrating on their products and their developers. Weâ€™re now spoiled for choice with some amazing technologies, let us get our teeth into them without feeling guilty and let us do some amazing stuff with those technologies. You wonâ€™t influence by bad-mouthing, youâ€™ll influence by supporting, listening and reacting to your developer communities.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think you had a major influence on that paragraph Scott!</p>
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		<title>By: DannyT</title>
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		<dc:creator>DannyT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 08:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Edit: This comment actually got picked up by akismet which I hadn&#039;t realised and so wasn&#039;t visible before Tink posted his comment below, caught by my own spam filter eh? WTF :P&lt;/strong&gt;
Tink: exactly what I&#039;ve said in response to certain Flash Vs Silverlight posts by certain prominent Adobe staff :P

Scott: Thanks for the response, I&#039;ll certainly be posting more of my experiences and I&#039;ll be very interested in your thoughts on that. 
Thanks also for the note on being open minded and agnostic, but do also note that I see yourself as somewhat &#039;in the playground&#039; with the references to side-swiping. Although granted you do stay somewhat more diplomatic than others, I just get the impression you know which buttons to press to invoke a reaction and enjoy doing so :P. It just makes me cringe a little every time I read both sides propeganda and reactions on EVERY MS vs Adobe post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Edit: This comment actually got picked up by akismet which I hadn&#8217;t realised and so wasn&#8217;t visible before Tink posted his comment below, caught by my own spam filter eh? WTF <img src='http://danny-t.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </strong><br />
Tink: exactly what I&#8217;ve said in response to certain Flash Vs Silverlight posts by certain prominent Adobe staff <img src='http://danny-t.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Scott: Thanks for the response, I&#8217;ll certainly be posting more of my experiences and I&#8217;ll be very interested in your thoughts on that.<br />
Thanks also for the note on being open minded and agnostic, but do also note that I see yourself as somewhat &#8216;in the playground&#8217; with the references to side-swiping. Although granted you do stay somewhat more diplomatic than others, I just get the impression you know which buttons to press to invoke a reaction and enjoy doing so <img src='http://danny-t.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> . It just makes me cringe a little every time I read both sides propeganda and reactions on EVERY MS vs Adobe post.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Barnes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Barnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 11:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post :)

If you could post more on your experiences going forward, as it would be interesting to see how you use the new mediums and in what way. I&#039;ve been watching the past 5 days how Flash/Flex Developers use both SilverLight and WPF via Expression Tools and it&#039;s truly amazing to see how fast they not only pick it up but what they do with it. (I call it study @ the developer enclosure).

It&#039;s also great to see you&#039;ve got an open mind and being agnostic! (You&#039;ll be stronger for it trust me heh).

Keep moving forward.

-
Scott Barnes
Developer Evangelist
Microsoft.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post <img src='http://danny-t.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>If you could post more on your experiences going forward, as it would be interesting to see how you use the new mediums and in what way. I&#8217;ve been watching the past 5 days how Flash/Flex Developers use both SilverLight and WPF via Expression Tools and it&#8217;s truly amazing to see how fast they not only pick it up but what they do with it. (I call it study @ the developer enclosure).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also great to see you&#8217;ve got an open mind and being agnostic! (You&#8217;ll be stronger for it trust me heh).</p>
<p>Keep moving forward.</p>
<p>-<br />
Scott Barnes<br />
Developer Evangelist<br />
Microsoft.</p>
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		<title>By: Tink</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 09:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree!

If your an evalgelist, concentrate on evangalising about your products instead of putting down the competitors. Then us devs can make a knowledgable choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree!</p>
<p>If your an evalgelist, concentrate on evangalising about your products instead of putting down the competitors. Then us devs can make a knowledgable choice.</p>
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